What do you want to do personally, outside KALIBER?

To get better and not grow into an old fart.

My biggest ambition is to actually work and have a girlfriend at the same time; if you can do that.

What’s the fear of the old fart?

I don’t know if it’s just a thing with the print people. You don’t have to be an old man to be an old fart, it’s just the old fart syndrome. This guy in Denmark called Jakob Nilsen who is regarded the ” interface guru,’ is really an old fart (find him at www.Useit.com). He’s always mentioned in everything I touch. He’s always saying you should do this and do that with html. For me it is more about fooling around. He’s a stubborn, boring old fart. Once you start thinking that there are certain ways to do things, standards that dictate what you “can ‘ and “can’t,” do it’s so dull and inappropriate. Things are so new you can’t really do it.

How will you avoid the Syndrome yourself as you become ‘the establishment?

It’s funny because the more hits we get, the more people write subdued e-mails asking this and that and you get the feeling that you are becoming an old man. I guess it happens to everyone.

Is it that inevitable?

I suppose we’re always trying to renew ourselves and move on and avoid falling into the pit where you keep repeating yourself. It’s also when you get older and more experienced you seem to get slower and duller, wearing suites, always being tired and having a dull life.

The controversy that seems to grow out of k10; is it a means to distance yourselves from becoming too acceptable?

We’re just trying to have fun. The porn project for instance is not meant to be that offensive. I used to use that site quite a lot, but thought it looked awful so I initially thought of designing a new logo and then thought it might be better to get everyone trying. There are some more controversial things on the site but this is more to do with the minds of the contributors than it has to do with us; and that is essential to the KALIBER site

Why do you think embracing these taboos is interesting?

The whole point is that people can do what they want to do, it’s not our place to go in and start censoring stuff. It make s the whole site more interesting if there’s no moral guidelines whatsoever. Hollywood has based its success on this moraless standpoint.

Is it also to give the site a broader appeal?

We didn’t really make the site to be entertaining in a broad sense. It is supposed to be quite specific, targeted at the design community. Our approach is just to keep it interesting and avoid falling into the Old Fart Pit. We also need to make it appealing for contributors who respond to the openness.

Anything else?

We’d like some more Japanese contributors. Don’t know why we don’t get them at the moment.