It’s hard to do daytime work and something apart from that, specially when you have a demanding job to do?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.. what I’m claiming is, it’s wicked hard, about this business, to have a real life.. I mean personally! Specially being one of these designers that does stuff like the REMEDI thing, because you spend all day long and work. And than you go home and try do your own thing.. and it’s impossible. So than you much like to have a girlfriend, or you wanna try to have friends at all.

So then the weekend comes, and I’m like ‘alright’, ‘that’s it’, I have to go to the grocery store, I gotta do laundry, I have to clean-up my room, ..have to do all my bills, have to mail all these people, have to organize all my stuff, plus I have to be ready for work on Monday..so my weekend is shut! ..it’s really bizzare, I find it really difficult to find that balance..I wonder if it’s an age thing, we gonna outgrow it and finally slow down. Or if we are just workoholics, and so we die?!

But you do enjoy it?

Yeah, but even when you do have time to relax it feels unnatural. Like I’m sitting there and I’m like: ‘There must be something I’m not doing..’. ‘I must be like forgetting about something, neglecting some part of my work. How can I not have anything to do?!?

How long are you doing this now?

4 years. I was only doing interactive before I was doing web stuff for just about 8 month… and than the web came along and I decided I wanna do that! So I jumped on that.. in ’94 or ’95..

Seems we all have more or less the same background..

I remember, even when I wasn’t designing for it, I was using mosaic or gopher back in the very, very beginning, playing around. I was thinking that might be fun one day..grey and black text. But even just being able to jump on NASA’s gopher site and download pretty much any text or even images, I could get images at that point.. of shuttle launches, and that was the coolest thing, I was like: Oh Yeah!

What’s the direction, whats your future plan, what are you going to do in one year? What do you want to do?

Pornography! Pornography and gambling (laughs)… that’s the way it goes. I like to think that there is some healthier way, that we all come together and start to talk to each another, but it’s not gonna happen.. just not! Doing the Olympics, at least initially, made me feel like, there could be something noble in all this.. But then, I don’t know.. I think the corruption of capitalism is too strong to let the internet ever be anything worthwhile.

What about this: ‘Internet and TV is going to merge’?

Convergence?

Total sports immersion conversion..(laughs)

Ya this is going to happen..

Give me a timeframe. Tell me when..

Haha, ya, I think I can do that: hm…. first quarter next year [2000]..

That’s pretty early..

Well, I think the content won’t be there.. that’s kind of a big thing. I think a lot of the media companies and NBC’s and news corps and time warners are shuffling to make sure that the technology will be there. The technology will definitely be there!

What kind of technology will it be? I mean about.. Will it be PC-based or TV-based. Web on TV, or TV on the web?

Hmm, thinking…(about 1 minute later!)… I think it’s gonna be TV on the computer. And the reason why I think that is because, the NBCs and the Foxs are going to step out of the technology, and not have anything to do with that. They won’t care necessarily what their stuff is going over, and let the Intels and the Compacs figure out how to actually move the stuff.. like how to get it from one point to another and then what to do with it when it finally gets there. Those people are PC-people. And the media companies are gonna spend more time to figure out what to send over there. Which they should do, because right now no-one has any clue. It’s funny..

Are you working alone? ..at Quokka and also at the REMEDI thing?

REMEDI I do completely by myself. And Quokka I do, I work pretty much on my own, too. When I changed positions, I kinda moved to a different department of which I was the only kind of employee. I started a research development division, and I am the first in it.. so I kinda get to do my own stuff.